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Dear Clare,

I went through the procedure with Dr. Clifford Bernstein, and after trying on my own so many times to stop the use of the Opiates I was on, ending with Fentanyl patches. I have finally succeeded thanks to your program. It was very hard after 12 years of use of these drugs after a crushed spine and many surgeries, but you said I could do it and you gave me a fighting chance to make it, in the most humane way as far as modern medicine, Thank you, your team really saved my life, and Dr. Bernstein is one of the most incredible Guys I had every met. what a great team you have, you care so much for the few you can save and you rejoice at the success or your clients, you are outstanding in your field.

Thank you

Scott

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Dear Clare,

I am honored to have you use the letter I sent to you, again it is such a great thing that you do. From my side of it, I wish only it would have happened sooner. my life was horrible from the moment I was aware I was not in control because of opiates, the drugs run your entire life, you can not plan anything, or move without knowing where the drugs are, or if you have enough to go anywhere.

You become scared of the withdrawals, worse than anything. With you it does not have to be that way at all.

My life has changed so much after a decade and more of use, I go to the gym daily. I am gaining mussel again, I look so much better and feel a great deal better, I still have pain, but it is really much better, opiates do cause pain in the long run, and you don't have control of it once addiction or dependency happens, it is a chemical reaction and it takes medical pro's like you guys to start the reversal process in motion.

Thank you very much again

Scott

Dear Scott,

We will always be here for you. Thank you for a wonderfull letter, it puts real meaning to our work.

God Bless,

Clare

Drug Addiction Specialist
Waismann Method of Rapid Detox
http://www.opiates.com

Hi! I am new to this site and I must say I am encouraged by the letter. Congrats to all of you!

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sheryl07

Hi Scott,

I am currenlty unable to stop taking Percocet and have heard some good and bad things about Rapid Detox. You have obviously had a good experience. How exactly did it work? How long were you out? Please let me know the details. I need to get off these drugs before i lose everything.

Thanks,
Andy

Hello just want say thank you for this site . all the info. someone to talk to that understands.Its just nice knowing someone is there.Thanks Rick.

I wish more patients would post there experiences. I am hoping posts are not censored and bad experiences not posted. I dont understand why there are so very few posts.

this is quite a new website and no we have not blocked any negative posts.


Regards,
Drug Addiction Specialist
Waismann Method of Rapid Detox
http://www.opiates.com

Thank you Clare and Maria,
After checking in on a Sat, I went to Domus on Monday. The environment and terrific staff support at Domus helped me to heal both mentally and physically that much sooner to allow me to go home on the following Tuesday, which is where I wanted to be. I just wanted to go home. I am one of the fortunate few that I was strong enough, both physically and mentally, to have this happen, but I would not have done it any other way.
Today, was my first day back at work and I got to say I had an anxiety attack. Never had one before. It took all I had to get dressed and go to my company's weekly meeting. I was glad I did. As long as you can make those steps, one at a time, in all you do, you end up saying to yourself "Gee that wasn't so bad"
Thank you to both of my guys at Domus and the both of the Chefs. Thank you for the outside pool.

You are more then welcome and please follow up with David regarding your anxiety...We are always here for you .......Thank you for the email...

Clare
Drug Addiction Specialist
Waismann Method of Rapid Detox
http://www.opiates.com

Hi Everyone - Tears are streaming down my face reading these thank you notes to the Clare, Maria and ALL the amazing people who I feel were my guardian angels during this scary time in my life. From step one - I knew I had a problem - New Years Eve i sent an email from the Waismann site thinking i'll hear back in a month. Of course not, NEW YEARS DAY my angel came! They did what they had to do to get me there and January 8th I arrived. Today, August 13, 2007 - i am 7 months opiate FREE! (and advil free - i'm so stubborn now i wont take anything )

I know it was MY strength, willpower and motivation that got me to go, participate and stay clean but I must say the genuine care and love that I thought only came from your family came from each and EVERY person I encountered on this amazing Odyssey.

I just want you guys to know that you are in my thoughts every day. You are amazing people. Absolutely amazing! And I will be back for a retreat because that safe haven is the best vacation I can ask for - Plus, I really want to sleep in that back room.

I cant thank everyone enough - Louis, you too! Love you guys and thank you for helping make this world a better place by sincerely helping people with addiction.

Courtney M.

Dear Clare,

It has been roughly five years since I underwent this traumatic and abhorrent procedure. I'm not quite sure what motivated me this evening to revisit this odious memory for which I have only Clifford Bernstein and Clare Wiasmann (Kavin) to thank. This procedure, claimed by the aforementioned to to be cutting-edge and optimally effective, is nothing more than scientifically unsubstantiated snake-oil medicine proffered by a band of deftly skilled charlatans. It simply doesn't work. The only thing effective about it is the exorbitant cost. After spending that kind of money, one will make it work, if you know what I mean. Long story short, $10,000+, 45+ days of withdraws (might as well have been cold turkey), and Dr. Clifford Bernstein telling me it was my imagination...like I didn't know what opioid withdraw feels like. Total asshole by the way. Clare was somewhat compassionate, but I don't think she was about to refund my $10,000. She puts on a nice act. If I could do it all over again, I would take the $10,000 and put myself up in a five star resort for a couple of weeks and just ride it out. It doesn't work. If anything I felt worse for the few days that followed, and then went back to that familiar methadone withdraw (depression, lethargy and chills) for almost two months before gradually returning to baseline. It's pure quackery. Just ask them for the science. It doesn't exist.

Wow, sorry to hear your experiences John, mine couldn't have been more opposite. I was dependent on opiates for many years, and my life was effectively over for many of them. I underwent RD about 8 months ago and cannot begin to describe how happy and free i feel daily. Every single person i met during my experience was compassionate and professional, and the care they showed me during such a vulnerable time was beyond belief. Being English myself, i was raised in a shame based society and was very sensitive to how i may have been percieved by anyone while going through the procedure. I can honestly say that The Waismann Method has put together a team of the most compassionate, sincere and caring people i have been blessed to know. Everyones genuine care for my well being was a major reason the procedure felt (and still feels) like a miracle to me. They should make a new category for the nobel prize just for Clare. I also want to point out the doctor was not an ass to me ( he saved my life!) and April at Domus was another person i didnt know still existed in this world-a real angel. Domus's staff were all unbeleivable and after my experience there my new dependency is hot tubs! The bottom line is this- They saved my life and i know they really care.

Treatment Without Judgment

People suffering from opiate addiction or dependency are not the stereotypical "drug addicts" that traditional drug rehabs has lead us to believe. This disease afflicts people from all walks of life, regardless of social or economic status - from athletes to stockbrokers, entertainers to homemakers, students to skilled laborers.

The basic thing nobody asks is why do people take drugs of any sort? Why do we have these accessories to normal living to live? I mean, is there something wrong with society that's making us so pressurized, that we cannot live without guarding ourselves against it?

Of course not, it would be great if we didn't take ANY medications and just lived with good diets and exercise. Unfortunately, when people did live like that many years ago, the average life span was in the 40's. Yes, there were those we read about in history that lived to their 80's or 90's but those were rare instances.

Diabetes, heart disease, depression, yes, even drug addiction, are diseases that can now be treated with meds. My grandfather died in 1968 from a massive heart attack. They didn't do bypass surgery then, they didn't have drugs like simvastatin for cholesterol, or coumadin as a blood thinner (they didn't even advocate 81mg of aspirin which saves millions of lives). Metformin and/or insulin for diabetes.

These drugs have helped people live long lives where years ago they would have died w/out them. Yes, I was addicted to percocet and opiates back in the 70's. I never injected heroin but I did sniff it and became addicted. After getting on methadone, I became a new person. It's been almost 30 years, I take 30mg/day (at home, I get monthly takehomes in diskette form), I have a great job, great kids (who are grown now and married), and a great and supportive wife. I credit methadone with getting to 55 years old and living a great life. I do have high blood pressure and take 20mg of lisinopril once a day, just like I take 30mg of methadone once a day.

I haven't taken an illegal drug or even a xanax or valium in over 25 years. My liver function is fine as are my kidneys. I get a physical once a year and give blood twice a year. I know (like many of my friends) that I would probably be dead if not for going to the first methadone clinic in suburban Philadelphia. Then I went to an OBOT doctor (office based opioid therapy) in Maryland before moving to south Florida. Because I've been compliant for so long, I'm eligible for monthly takehomes in pill form, no liquids. I just wish they had OBOT here in FLorida (it seems only MD and NY have it) where you are dispensed your pills by a doctor (like buprenorphine) but it only costs about $100/month instead of $400/month.

No way do I have $10,000 for a procedure which is offered here for detox. And I've heard too many horror stories about terrible withdrawal for months, no different than just stopping on your own. I think (and yes this is MY opinion) that the $10,000 makes the doctors rich while the patient suffers. If it's worked for you and you can afford it...great! To each his/her own.

I prefer methadone just as a diabetic takes insulin or a hypertensive takes high blood pressure meds and will for the rest of his or her life. No side effects, no high, just able to live a normal life. And I've been steady on 30mg for over 10 years, before that I was on 50 mg. But I know people on over 500 mg of methadone daily that function just as well. It's all individual.

thanks for letting me post, I appreciate it even though I don't agree with the procedure. AFAIK, why suffer needlessly? Methadone is a very inexpensive drug, widely available by prescription or dispensed by physicians at clinics or OBOT offices, or buprenorphine if you're against methadone.

BTW, methadone is not abbreviated as "meth"...that refers to methamphetamine completely different drug. Too many people here "meth" and think you mean methadone. NOT!

Happy 4th to all.

I see that the earlier posts aren't very recent but I'm sure that others still reference these forums so I thought that I'd add my 2 cents...

First, mikefive stated that u don't get a high from methadone & that it's okay to use for maintenance & even compares it to insulin for a diabetic! NOT TRUE! Maybe I can explain better by telling my story. I assure u that my story is 100% true – w/o ANY buffers or prompting from anyone. I hope that it will help someone out there so they don't have to experience what I have!
My addiction began b/c I was in an extremely abusive relationship, then we got married & I got pregnant. He was the one who got me started on Percocets. He also had issues with cocaine/crack & any other drug that he could get his hands on. I was so embarrassed & felt like such a low life but, guess what... I was a nurse in an ER with a well off family, happy childhood & the world in front of me! I never thought that an addiction could/would happen to me, but, it did! I was addicted to Percocet/Vicodin for about 2.5 years. The addiction started as a half a 512 (Percocet) a day, for a mood enhancer, but ended up around 20-10mg tabs a day just to live after I finally found the strength to leave him. I was SO irritable, hateful, selfish & uncaring but I had no idea how bad I really was.

I finally began seeing the light and went to see my M.D. I told him about my addiction & he referred me to a dr who works specifically w/ opiate addicts. He’s actually the head of the methadone clinics on the East Coast. I thought that this meant I was getting the best dr & that he was really going to help but u can’t just put all of your trust in a physician just b/c of the degrees on his wall & the success of his practice. The makers of Suboxone pay their prescribing physicians VERY WELL… make NO mistake about that!

My 1st visit was 4.5 years ago & he immediately put me on methadone. I did get a high from methadone, really more so than with the percs & the nausea was really bad when coming down from them. It was so long ago that I can’t remember what dose I was on. Another issue that I had with my dr was that he let me control my treatment… ME, an ADDICT!! I would move my dose up & have him call in meds in between visits. He never said no or that I needed to chill out. He just kept on handing them out like candy. At the time I was relieved b/c I wanted to continue going through life w/o feeling it after being hurt so badly but it really just made matters worse.

I was on methadone for 1.5 years when I asked him about the “synthetic methadone” that he’d mentioned when I first began treatment. He told me about Suboxone & made it sound like a miracle drug… that’s when the hell began.U have to go 24 – 48 hours w/o any opiates before u can start Suboxone. The way that it was described to me was that it works like a movie theater. To start off with, the seats at the movie theater were full of people (the seats being the receptors in your brain & the people being the opiate). As u go longer w/o the opiate more “people” get up & leave their “seats” which is when u start feeling withdrawals & begin taking Suboxone. The Suboxone fills the empty seats. The more time that goes by, the more opiates have left their seats & Suboxone fills those empty seats until all the opiates are gone & the theater is filled with Suboxone. During this process, u’ll go to see your M.D. every 1-2 days to keep an eye on your dosage. At the end of the process your M.D. will adjust your dose for maintenance. At that time, your head will begin to clear.

I did experience some pretty bad withdrawals. In my case, I’d taken the first dose around noon at the dr’s office & then needed to take another around dinner time. I had a dinner for work so I went to the bathroom & tried to take it quickly. In doing that, I just sucked the pill until it was gone – I didn’t understand that it had to dissolve underneath my tongue in order to work. I had to call my dr & he called me in some Phenergan b/c I was throwing up so much & valium b/c I had HORRIBLE anxiety & couldn’t stop kicking my legs. I was lethargic & sick feeling for a few days. I did have to take the rest of the week off from work. I will say, I do believe that I wouldn’t have had such a hard time if I would’ve taken the 2nd dose properly. After the first full 24 hrs I was EXTREMELY emotional b/c the drugs were clearing out & I was feeling “normal” which I hadn’t felt in several years. I was feeling such remorse for how horribly I’d treated the people in my life. It was so difficult but at the same time exhilarating b/c I was taking my life back!

Fast forward 2.5 years to today… I have varied my dose of Suboxone from 24mg a day down to 12 mg. I could never get any lower than that until recently. WITHOUT the assistance of my dr, I’m now down to 4 mg a day! WOO-HOO!! U’ll feel some withdrawal symptoms each time u lower your dose then u will level out on that dose. Weaning off of Suboxone is not easy & cannot be done alone or quickly. Since I am close to coming off completely I’ve just started researching Suboxone & I’m just now seeing that Suboxone wasn’t the best choice. In my reading, I found a particular woman who had lowered herself down to splitting a 2 mg tablet over 7 days! She stopped taking the Suboxone & experienced withdrawals for almost 3 weeks now! At that low of a dose! And she’s definitely not the only one!

I'm absolutely terrified about coming off of these! In addition to telling my story here, I’m hoping that some people who have experienced rapid detox will respond & tell me about how it was. I’ve just stumbled upon it last night but am seriously thinking about doing it. Anything that any of you can offer me would be really appreciated!

So, the point of all this is to tell u to NOT take Suboxone! It does work, it really does, but it is very expensive & just as addictive as the opiate that u started off with! Yes, your head is clear so u are back to your old self but u’ll still have some side effects such as decreased libido, constipation, etc, etc that u had with the opiates. If I had it to do all over again I’d go to an inpatient rehab clinic for 30 – 60 days w/o taking methadone or Suboxone. I didn’t do that at the time b/c I was a single parent w/ a very young child but it would’ve been so much better for the both of us in the long run. Please, please, consider that option above others. Keep 1 simple point in mind… methadone and Suboxone have much longer half life’s than all other opiates so withdrawing from methadone and Suboxone will be much longer than with any other opiate!!! Why take yourself from a few days of hard withdrawal to a few WEEKS of hard withdrawal?!?!?!?! Do your research, join support groups & tell your family & friends! Above all, u need the support of those that u love in order to be successful! Good luck with your journey… it CAN be done & we WILL get through this!

FED UP-
Please look at our website, http://www.opiates.com. You will find real testimonials there that may help guide you in the right direction. Click on the tab "Patient Testimonials". Rapid detox is not for everyone, but hopefully the posts on opiates.com will help you decide.
I'm sorry you've been given the usual run around with Suboxone & Methadone. Although they can help you get off of the more dangerous 'analogue' street drugs, they also keep you a prisoner.
If you have any questions about our program, please feel free to call me anytime and I'll help you out in any way I'm able. 310-205-0808.
Good luck and stay positive!
Bre.

I have been having my staff hand write thank you notes to new patients, thanking them for coming to the office. But I am looking for a template that I can just print out and use as what we send for thank you letters to patient referrals, new patients, etc. I work for an orthopedic group of doctors. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I have only found thank you letters about job interviews in my searches.